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I decided to make this a seperate thread purely for votes. No discussion in here, leave that for the other threads.
The teams to vote for are Trade Game 08 - Completed Teams and Voting
The only people that can vote are those that have played in the 08 trade game and have put in a final team in the above link. All teams are in the order of when the final team was entered.
You cannot vote for your own team
And voting is from .5-5
Loopy Cam - St.Kilda
Backs: /5
Midfield: /5
Rucks: /5
Forward: /5
Depth: /5
Youth: /5
Improvement: /10
Total: /40

Great_Source - Port Adelaide
Backs: /5
Midfield: /5
Rucks: /5
Forward: /5
Depth: /5
Youth: /5
Improvement: /10
Total: /40

Crows4Flag - Adelaide
Backs: /5
Midfield: /5
Rucks: /5
Forward: /5
Depth: /5
Youth: /5
Improvement: /10
Total: /40

Ravadongon - Western Bulldogs
Backs: /5
Midfield: /5
Rucks: /5
Forward: /5
Depth: /5
Youth: /5
Improvement: /10
Total: /40

Bombers007 - Sydney
Backs: /5
Midfield: /5
Rucks: /5
Forward: /5
Depth: /5
Youth: /5
Improvement: /10
Total: /40

Brades - Adelaide
Backs: /5
Midfield: /5
Rucks: /5
Forward: /5
Depth: /5
Youth: /5
Improvement: /10
Total: /40

PAFC - Melbourne
Backs: /5
Midfield: /5
Rucks: /5
Forward: /5
Depth: /5
Youth: /5
Improvement: /10
Total: /40

Tippaz - Collingwood
Backs: /5
Midfield: /5
Rucks: /5
Forward: /5
Depth: /5
Youth: /5
Improvement: /10
Total: /40

Eagle_Rock - Brisbane
Backs: /5
Midfield: /5
Rucks: /5
Forward: /5
Depth: /5
Youth: /5
Improvement: /10
Total: /40

Peterfitz - Hawthorn
Backs: /5
Midfield: /5
Rucks: /5
Forward: /5
Depth: /5
Youth: /5
Improvement: /10
Total: /40

Hinzey - Richmond
Backs: /5
Midfield: /5
Rucks: /5
Forward: /5
Depth: /5
Youth: /5
Improvement: /10
Total: /40

Gosllaur05 - North Melbourne
Backs: /5
Midfield: /5
Rucks: /5
Forward: /5
Depth: /5
Youth: /5
Improvement: /10
Total: /40

Cormick - Essendon
Backs: /5
Midfield: /5
Rucks: /5
Forward: /5
Depth: /5
Youth: /5
Improvement: /10
Total: /40

Plugg3r - West Coast
Backs: /5
Midfield: /5
Rucks: /5
Forward: /5
Depth: /5
Youth: /5
Improvement: /10
Total: /40
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Loopy Cam - St.Kilda
Backs: /5
Midfield: /5
Rucks: /5
Forward: /5
Depth: /5
Youth: /5
Improvement: /10
Total: /40

Great_Source - Port Adelaide
Backs: /5
Midfield: /5
Rucks: /5
Forward: /5
Depth: /5
Youth: /5
Improvement: /10
Total: /40

Crows4Flag - Adelaide
Backs: /5
Midfield: /5
Rucks: /5
Forward: /5
Depth: /5
Youth: /5
Improvement: /10
Total: /40

Ravadongon - Western Bulldogs
Backs: /5
Midfield: /5
Rucks: /5
Forward: /5
Depth: /5
Youth: /5
Improvement: /10
Total: /40

Bombers007 - Sydney
Backs: /5
Midfield: /5
Rucks: /5
Forward: /5
Depth: /5
Youth: /5
Improvement: /10
Total: /40

Brades - Adelaide
Backs: /5
Midfield: /5
Rucks: /5
Forward: /5
Depth: /5
Youth: /5
Improvement: /10
Total: /40

PAFC - Melbourne
Backs: /5
Midfield: /5
Rucks: /5
Forward: /5
Depth: /5
Youth: /5
Improvement: /10
Total: /40

Tippaz - Collingwood
Backs: 2/5
Midfield: 3/5
Rucks: 4/5
Forward: 4/5
Depth: 2/5
Youth: 3/5
Improvement: 6/10
Total: 24/40

Eagle_Rock - Brisbane
Backs: /5
Midfield: /5
Rucks: /5
Forward: /5
Depth: /5
Youth: /5
Improvement: /10
Total: /40

Peterfitz - Hawthorn
Backs: 5/5
Midfield: 5/5
Rucks: 3/5
Forward: 3/5
Depth: 2/5
Youth: 3/5
Improvement: 7/10
Total: 29/40

Hinzey - Richmond
Backs: 2/5
Midfield: 3/5
Rucks: 2/5
Forward: 3/5
Depth: 3/5
Youth: 2/5
Improvement: 4/10
Total: 19/40

Gosllaur05 - North Melbourne
Backs: /5
Midfield: /5
Rucks: /5
Forward: /5
Depth: /5
Youth: /5
Improvement: /10
Total: /40

Cormick - Essendon
Backs: /5
Midfield: /5
Rucks: /5
Forward: /5
Depth: /5
Youth: /5
Improvement: /10
Total: /40

Plugg3r - West Coast
Backs: /5
Midfield: /5
Rucks: /5
Forward: /5
Depth: /5
Youth: /5
Improvement: /10
Total: /40


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Loopy Cam - St.Kilda
Backs: 2/5
Midfield: 3/5
Rucks: 3/5
Forward: 3/5
Depth: 3/5
Youth: 4/5
Improvement: 5/10
Total: 23/40

Great_Source - Port Adelaide
Backs: 4/5
Midfield: 4.5/5
Rucks: 4.5/5
Forward: 4/5
Depth: 3/5
Youth: 3.5/5
Improvement: 7.5/10
Total: 31/40 (Done honestly)

Crows4Flag - Carlton
Backs: 2/5
Midfield: 3/5
Rucks: 2/5
Forward: 4/5
Depth: 2/5
Youth: 2/5
Improvement: 6/10
Total: 21/40

Ravadongon - Western Bulldogs
Backs: 3/5
Midfield: 3/5
Rucks: 3/5
Forward: 4/5
Depth: 4/5
Youth: 2/5
Improvement: 7/10
Total: 26/40

Bombers007 - Sydney
Backs: 2/5
Midfield: 2/5
Rucks: 2/5
Forward: 2/5
Depth: 2/5
Youth: 2/5
Improvement: 4/10
Total: 16/40

Brades - Adelaide
Backs: 2/5
Midfield: 2/5
Rucks: 2/5
Forward: 2/5
Depth: 3/5
Youth: 3/5
Improvement: 5/10
Total: 19/40

PAFC - Melbourne
Backs: 2/5
Midfield: 3/5
Rucks: 2/5
Forward: 2/5
Depth: 3/5
Youth: 3/5
Improvement: 5/10
Total: 20/40

Tippaz - Collingwood
Backs: 2/5
Midfield: 3/5
Rucks: 3/5
Forward: 2/5
Depth: 3/5
Youth: 3/5
Improvement: 6/10
Total: 22/40

Eagle_Rock - Brisbane
Backs: 2/5
Midfield: 4/5
Rucks: 2/5
Forward: 3/5
Depth: 2/5
Youth: 2/5
Improvement: 6/10
Total: 21/40

Peterfitz - Hawthorn
Backs: 4/5
Midfield: 3/5
Rucks: 2/5
Forward: 3/5
Depth: 4/5
Youth: 3/5
Improvement: 7/10
Total: 26/40

Hinzey - Richmond
Backs: 2/5
Midfield: 2/5
Rucks: 2/5
Forward: 3/5
Depth: 3/5
Youth: 3/5
Improvement: 4/10
Total: 18/40

Gosllaur05 - North Melbourne
Backs: 2/5
Midfield: 4/5
Rucks: 2/5
Forward: 2/5
Depth: 2/5
Youth: 3/5
Improvement: 5/10
Total: 20/40

Cormick - Essendon
Backs: 3/5
Midfield: 2/5
Rucks: 2/5
Forward: 2/5
Depth: 2/5
Youth: 3/5
Improvement: 5/10
Total: 19/40

Plugg3r - West Coast
Backs: 4/5
Midfield: 3/5
Rucks: 4/5
Forward: 3/5
Depth: 2/5
Youth: 2/5
Improvement: 6/10
Total: 24/40
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Loopy Cam - St.Kilda
Backs: 3/5

Midfield: 5/5
Rucks: 4/5
Forward: 4/5
Depth: 3/5
Youth: 4/5
Improvement: 5/10
Total: 28/40

Great_Source - Port Adelaide
Backs: 4/5
Midfield: 4/5
Rucks: 4/5
Forward: 3/5
Depth: 2/5
Youth: 3/5
Improvement: 4/10
Total: 24/40

Crows4Flag - Carlton
Backs: 5/5
Midfield: 3/5
Rucks: 3/5
Forward: 4/5
Depth: 2/5
Youth: 2/5
Improvement: 7/10
Total: 26/40

I no this is my team but if i was doing it honestly ^^^


Ravadongon - Western Bulldogs
Backs: 3/5
Midfield: 3/5
Rucks: 3/5
Forward: 4/5
Depth: 4/5
Youth: 2/5
Improvement: 4/10
Total: 23/40

Bombers007 - Sydney
Backs: 3/5
Midfield: 4/5
Rucks: 3/5
Forward: 2/5
Depth: 3/5
Youth: 2/5
Improvement: 3/10
Total: 20/40

Brades - Adelaide
Backs: 4/5
Midfield: 3/5
Rucks: 2/5
Forward: 2/5
Depth: 2/5
Youth: 3/5
Improvement: 3/10
Total: 20/40

PAFC - Melbourne
Backs: 3/5
Midfield: 3/5
Rucks: 3/5
Forward: 2/5
Depth: 4/5
Youth: 4/5
Improvement: 3/10
Total: 22/40

Tippaz - Collingwood
Backs: 3/5
Midfield: 4/5
Rucks: 3/5
Forward: 3/5
Depth: 3/5
Youth: 2/5
Improvement: 4/10
Total: 22/40

Eagle_Rock - Brisbane
Backs: 3/5
Midfield: 4/5
Rucks: 3/5
Forward: 4/5
Depth: 3/5
Youth: 3/5
Improvement: 4/10
Total: 24/40

Peterfitz - Hawthorn
Backs: 5/5
Midfield: 4/5
Rucks: 3/5
Forward: 3/5
Depth: 3/5
Youth: 4/5
Improvement: 4/10
Total: 26/40

Hinzey - Richmond
Backs: 2/5
Midfield: 3/5
Rucks: 2/5
Forward: 3/5
Depth: 2/5
Youth: 3/5
Improvement: 3/10
Total: 18/40

Gosllaur05 - North Melbourne
Backs: 3/5
Midfield: 5/5
Rucks: 2/5
Forward: 3/5
Depth: 3/5
Youth: 4/5
Improvement: 4/10
Total: 24/40

Cormick - Essendon
Backs: 2/5
Midfield: 2/5
Rucks: 2/5
Forward: 1/5
Depth: 3/5
Youth: 5/5
Improvement: 4/10
Total: 19/40

Plugg3r - West Coast
Backs: 4/5
Midfield: 4/5
Rucks: 4/5
Forward: 4/5
Depth: 2/5
Youth: 3/5
Improvement: 3/10
Total: 24/40
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Loopy Cam - St.Kilda
Backs: 3.5/5
Midfield: 4.5/5
Rucks: 5/5
Forward: 4/5
Depth: 2/5
Youth: 5/5
Improvement: 6/10
Total: 30/40

Very happy with my team but a couple of injuries would probably kill me.

Great_Source - Port Adelaide
Backs: 3/5
Midfield: 4/5
Rucks: 4/5
Forward: 3.5/5
Depth: 2.5/5
Youth: 3/5
Improvement: 5/10
Total: 26/40

Team looks strong on paper. Weakness' would probably be backline and depth imo.

Crows4Flag - Carlton
Backs: 3.5/5
Midfield: 4/5
Rucks: 1/5
Forward: 3.5/5
Depth: 2/5
Youth: 3/5
Improvement: 7/10
Total: 24/40

Don't think Goodes could stand up to a season in the ruck. This leaves King doing a lone job and that could cause serious problems.

Ravadongon - Western Bulldogs
Backs: 2/5
Midfield: 4/5
Rucks: 5/5
Forward: 3/5
Depth: 3/5
Youth: 3/5
Improvement: 6/10
Total: 26/40

Very, very, very good ruck stocks. Rest of the team could do very well without being great.

Bombers007 - Sydney
Backs: 3.5/5
Midfield: 3/5
Rucks: 3/5
Forward: 3/5
Depth: 2.5/5
Youth: 3/5
Improvement: 4/10
Total: 22/40

Lack of quality full-forward is a problem. I also think Tredrea is over the hill.

Brades - Adelaide
Backs: 2.5/5
Midfield: 3.5/5
Rucks: 3/5
Forward: 2/5
Depth: 3/5
Youth: 5/5
Improvement: 2/10
Total: 21/40

Should be a great team in coming years. Obviously, building for the future cost the improvement mark.

PAFC - Melbourne
Backs: 2/5
Midfield: 2.5/5
Rucks: 3/5
Forward: 2/5
Depth: 3/5
Youth: 4/5
Improvement: 3/10
Total: 19.5/40

Don't think this team is too good now but could become a good team. Alot of players are relatively untried. If they play to their potential, this team would be great.

Tippaz - Collingwood
Backs: 2/5
Midfield: 4.5/5
Rucks: 4/5
Forward: 3.5/5
Depth: 2.5/5
Youth: 4.5/5
Improvement: 5/10
Total: 26/40

I like this team alot. Recruited good youth in Dempsey, Jetta and Houli. I'm not biased, lol. Love the midfield but backline is a problem.

Eagle_Rock - Brisbane
Backs: 3/5
Midfield: 4/5
Rucks: 3/5
Forward: 4.5/5
Depth: 3/5
Youth: 2/5
Improvement: 6/10
Total: 25.5/40

Very, very good forward line. Was close to giving it a 5. Midfield also good.

Peterfitz - Hawthorn
Backs: 5/5
Midfield: 3/5
Rucks: 4/5
Forward: 3.5/5
Depth: 3/5
Youth: 4.5/5
Improvement: 4/10
Total: 27/40

Great Backline, Great Youth. Couldn't poll well in improvement because hawks were pretty good to start off with.

Hinzey - Richmond
Backs: 2/5
Midfield: 3.5/5
Rucks: 2/5
Forward: 3/5
Depth: 4/5
Youth: 2/5
Improvement: 3/10
Total: 19.5/40

Can't believe it is possible to get such a low score from the improvement of Richmond. I just don't think the team is that great though. Gave depth a higher score mostly to raise the total score.

Gosllaur05 - North Melbourne
Backs: 3/5
Midfield: 4.5/5
Rucks: 3/5
Forward: 2.5/5
Depth: 3/5
Youth: 3/5
Improvement: 5/10
Total: 24/40

Great midfield. Forward line not so good.

Cormick - Essendon
Backs: 2.5/5
Midfield: 2.5/5
Rucks: 3/5
Forward: 2.5/5
Depth: 3/5
Youth: 4.5/5
Improvement: 5/10
Total: 23/40

Youth is good. The team probably broke even with the current Essendon side.

Plugg3r - West Coast
Backs: 4/5
Midfield: 4/5
Rucks: 4/5
Forward: 3/5
Depth: 2.5/5
Youth: 3.5/5
Improvement: 4/10
Total: 25/40

Good Overall side. Premiership contender.
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Loopy Cam - St.Kilda
Backs: 3/5
Midfield: 3/5
Rucks: 2/5
Forward: 2/5
Depth: 1/5
Youth: 2/5
Improvement: 3/10
Total: 16/40

Great_Source - Port Adelaide
Backs: 1/5
Midfield: 4/5
Rucks: 3/5
Forward: 4/5
Depth: 2/5
Youth: 1/5
Improvement: 3/10
Total: 18/40

Crows4Flag - Carlton
Backs: 2/5
Midfield: 2/5
Rucks: 1/5
Forward: 4/5
Depth: 2/5
Youth: 4/5
Improvement: 6/10
Total: 21/40

Ravadongon - Western Bulldogs
Backs: 3/5
Midfield: 3/5
Rucks: 2/5
Forward: 4/5
Depth: 5/5
Youth: 4/5
Improvement: 6/10
Total: 27/40

Bombers007 - Sydney
Backs: 3/5
Midfield: 3/5
Rucks: 2/5
Forward: 2/5
Depth: 1/5
Youth: 2/5
Improvement: 2/10
Total: 15/40

Brades - Adelaide
Backs: 5/5
Midfield: 4/5
Rucks: 2/5
Forward: 3/5
Depth: 4/5
Youth: 5/5
Improvement: 8/10
Total: 31/40

PAFC - Melbourne
Backs: 1/5
Midfield: 2/5
Rucks: 2/5
Forward: 1/5
Depth: 1/5
Youth: 1/5
Improvement: 1/10
Total: 9/40

Tippaz - Collingwood
Backs: 2/5
Midfield: 4/5
Rucks: 3/5
Forward: 3/5
Depth: 2/5
Youth: 3/5
Improvement: 5/10
Total: 22/40

Eagle_Rock - Brisbane

Backs: 2/5
Midfield: 4/5
Rucks: 3/5
Forward: 5/5
Depth: 2/5
Youth: 2/5
Improvement: 7/10
Total: 25/40

Peterfitz - Hawthorn
Backs: 4/5
Midfield: 4/5
Rucks: 3/5
Forward: 4/5
Depth: 4/5
Youth: 3/5
Improvement: 7/10
Total: 29/40

Hinzey - Richmond
Backs: 1/5
Midfield: 2/5
Rucks: 2/5
Forward: 3/5
Depth: 2/5
Youth: 2/5
Improvement: 5/10
Total: 17/40

Gosllaur05 - North Melbourne
Backs: 3/5
Midfield: 5/5
Rucks: 1/5
Forward: 2/5
Depth: 1/5
Youth: 2/5
Improvement: 3/10
Total: 17/40

Cormick - Essendon
Backs: 1/5
Midfield: 1/5
Rucks: 1/5
Forward: 2/5
Depth: 3/5
Youth: 4/5
Improvement: 2/10
Total: 14/40

Plugg3r - West Coast
Backs: 5/5
Midfield: 4/5
Rucks: 3/5
Forward: 3/5
Depth: 2/5
Youth: 2/5
Improvement: 3/10
Total: 22/40
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Loopy Cam - St.Kilda
Backs: 4.5/5
Midfield: 4/5
Rucks: 4/5
Forward: 4/5
Depth: 1.5/5
Youth: 4.5/5
Improvement: 7.5/10
Total: 30.5/40

Really solid team best XXII in all regards, is up there with the best if not the best of the current entries, solid all over and plenty of great youth, however depth is definitely an issue. If all goes to plan with injuries then this is a premiership contender, however if it goes pear shaped like it has aplenty in recent times for the Saints they could be slightly worse than just mid table dwellers.

Great_Source - Port Adelaide
Backs: 3/5
Midfield: 5/5
Rucks: 4/5
Forward: 4.5/5
Depth: 1.5/5
Youth: 3.5/5
Improvement: 4/10
Total: 25.5/40

Another premiership contender, with Backs the only significant issue as only Mal plays tight checking (and he's almost finished), the rest are quite loose playing defenders (most very good ones though), elsewhere very solid (forward line has been improved in particular, midfield very well balanced, rucks the same). Depth is an issue with alot of young players. A good improvement of the current team overall, but a loss of Port's exciting youth and upside.

Crows4Flag - Carlton
Backs: 2.5/5
Midfield: 2.5/5
Rucks: 1/5
Forward: 5/5
Depth: 1.5/5
Youth: 4/5
Improvement: 5/10
Total: 21.5/40

A team with fairly good future prospects, but only brilliant in one area currently - definitely better than the current Carlton team, but without as a bright a future. Backline isn't brilliant but has definitely been improved (~1.5 points), average midfield, superb forward line. Rucks are lacking big time - Goodes doesn't ruck anymore and King is reaching an end, no other suitable back-up options. Depth is still an issue.

Ravadongon - Western Bulldogs
Backs: 3.5/5
Midfield: 3.5/5
Rucks: 3.5/5
Forward: 5/5
Depth: 4.5/5
Youth: 4/5
Improvement: 7.5/10
Total: 31.5/40

Bombers007 - Sydney
Backs: 2.5/5
Midfield: 4/5
Rucks: 3/5
Forward: 2/5
Depth: 3.5/5
Youth: 2/5
Improvement: 3.5/10
Total: 20/40

Looks like Sydney could be for some tough times, not bottom of the pack yet, but almost. Backs are average, midfield is typical Sydney (apart from Dal Santo), very workman like. Rucks are decent with Everitt (almost finished) and Hille. You know the forward line isn't too great when Hille's starting FF. Depth is solid with quite a few in the wings with solid experience, but youth needs work

Brades - Adelaide
Backs: 4/5
Midfield: 3.5/5
Rucks: 2.5/5
Forward: 3/5
Depth: 3/5
Youth: 5/5
Improvement: 8/10
Total: 29/40

Excellent team for the future (which seems is what Brades was aiming for and the right option for Adelaide), won't be pushing for a premiership now, but given a couple of years will be right up there. While depth is average now, Adelaide will be absolutely spoilt for choice in the future. Rucks are the only weakness I see still being possibly present in the future, but Warnock is really progressing nicely.

PAFC - Melbourne
Backs: 1.5/5
Midfield: 3/5
Rucks: 2.5/5
Forward: 3/5
Depth: 3/5
Youth: 5/5
Improvement: 7/10
Total: 25/40

Like his mate Brades () another team for the future, but not in contention right now. Probably not as well covered as Brades is ATM (will be bottom 8 for at least next year), and the backline still needs a fair amount of work, but could well be just as good in the future. Has done the right thing in turning over the list, without having much to work with.

Tippaz - Collingwood
Backs: 3/5
Midfield: 4.5/5
Rucks: 3/5
Forward: 4.5/5
Depth: 4/5
Youth: 5/5
Improvement: 6/10
Total: 30/40

Yet another team for the future, but will be more prominent now than the others (like Collingwood this year). While he hasn't drastically improved the current best team, Tippaz has really assured Collingwood of future success, if it wasn't already. The youth is very exciting! Rucks probably still need addressing though to take them to from top 4 level to top 2...

Eagle_Rock - Brisbane

Backs: 3/5
Midfield: 4.5/5
Rucks: 3.5/5
Forward: 5/5
Depth: 2/5
Youth: 2/5
Improvement: 4/10
Total: 24/40

Taken a backward step away from being a midtable young team with hope to being a midtable team without as big a future. Backline should be set up with Roe at CHB, rather than Copeland who should be used for small's tagging - not bad, but Hudghton isn't the ideal man to build a backline around though. Kennelly and Bateman provide excellent run and carry which really ups the backs rating. Midfield has a good blend of class and workman characteristics, only concern is pace. Rucks are fairly good with Charman, but if he goes down there are major problems. Forward line rating is mainly thanks to Brown, perfect guy to build a forward line around.

Peterfitz - Hawthorn
Backs: 5/5
Midfield: 3.5/5
Rucks: 2/5
Forward: 4/5
Depth: 5/5
Youth: 4.5/5
Improvement: 5.5/10
Total: 29.5/40

Fairly well rounded team that may push for a premiership next year on the back of an awesome backline. Midfield is solid, but lacks that one X-factor player, Forward line is good, Waite and Roughead need a couple more years to full blossom - rucking needs work, - no FT option, while very mobile, I'm unsure whether Ryder, Kosi and Clark's best positions are as ruckman and Campbell hasn't shown enough to warrant a high rating yet. Depth is superb - probably the best, lot's of AFL ready options and youth is very good.

Hinzey - Richmond
Backs: 1.5/5
Midfield: 2.5/5
Rucks: 1/5
Forward: 2.5/5
Depth: 2.5/5
Youth: 2.5/5
Improvement: 4/10
Total: 16.5/40

To be fair Hinzey didn't have an easy task with Richmond on his hands and this is still a team that will be a cellar dweller. Backs are still weak, Baker is the best lockdown player, but better utilised in the middle. Some good creative players in Scotland and Bowden, but not enough that are proficient at the defender's primary job, negating. Midfield is average, some good workman players, but a lack of pace. Forward line's average, the best players are retired/will be moving on soon. Depth isn't too bad, but youth should be better.

Gosllaur05 - North Melbourne
Backs: 3/5
Midfield: 5/5
Rucks: 2.5/5
Forward: 1.5/5
Depth: 4.5/5
Youth: 2.5/5
Improvement: 2.5/10
Total: 21/40

Overall a team that is outstanding in one area, but lacks quality in the rest. Backline has two of the best rebounding defenders in Ad**** and Mackie as well as one of the best QB/generals in Goddard, however no lockdown KPP to build the backline around, which is a concern. Midfield is terrific, but ruckman are average (Street is a good tap ruckman, but doesn't provide anything else). Forward line isn't looking too flash NAblett and Gill aren't the best options to build a forward line around. Depth is very good, alot of AFL ready options and youth is average (taken a backward step).

Cormick - Essendon
Backs: 1.5/5
Midfield: 2.5/5
Rucks: 2.5/5
Forward: 1.5/5
Depth: 3.5/5
Youth: 4.5/5
Improvement: 3/10
Total: 19.5/40

A very different Essendon, with a shift to complete rebuilding mode and will be competing with Richmond for the wooden spoon. The team is weak all over, no area stands out as being strong. While youth is very good, I think more could've been done to maintain the higher class players on the list.

Plugg3r - West Coast
Backs: 5/5
Midfield: 4/5
Rucks: 4/5
Forward: 4.5/5
Depth: 2.5/5
Youth: 3.5/5
Improvement: 3/10
Total: 27/40

West Coast started off as arguably the best team on paper, but are in similar shape to what they are at present in real life after the post/off season occurrences (which didn't occur in the trade game). Backline has definitely been strengthened, running defenders with good disposal like McLeod and Gilbee were required at the beginning. Midfield while still good is definitely less fearsome. Rucks ratings are purely on Cox, but apart from him there is little back-up - Biglands is nearing an end and coming back from a knee reco (not a good combo) - would've been better off with Seaby, who has alot more upside. Youth is still solid (was previously better), but alot of the better young players have been lost, and depth is around average (maybe slightly lower).

The best positioned teams for success in the short (next 2-3 years) and long term (5+ years time) are St Kilda, Hawthorn, Bulldogs and Collingwood. Teams with a good chance of a success in the short term only are Port Adelaide, West Coast and Brisbane. Teams best positioned for success in the long term only are Adelaide and Melbourne.
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Loopy Cam - St.Kilda
Backs: 4.5/5
Midfield: 4/5
Rucks: 4.5/5
Forward: 4/5
Depth: 3.5/5
Youth: 4.5/5
Improvement: 7/10
Total: 32/40
This team could challenge for a flag. Close to a couple of 5’s.
Great_Source - Port Adelaide
Backs: 3.5/5
Midfield: 4.5/5
Rucks: 4.5/5
Forward: 4.5/5
Depth: 3/5
Youth: 2/5
Improvement: 7/10
Total: 29/40
Nice forward line, improvement mainly came from there.
Crows4Flag - Carlton
Backs: 4/5
Midfield: 2/5
Rucks: 2/5
Forward: 4.5/5
Depth: 2.5/5
Youth: 2/5
Improvement: 7/10
Total: 24/40
Some players that were simply out of position hurt you a lot. Backline improved greatly, good job there.
Ravadongon - Western Bulldogs
Backs: 4/5
Midfield: 3.5/5
Rucks: 3.5/5
Forward: 4/5
Depth: 4.5/5
Youth: 3.5/5
Improvement: 8/10
Total: 31/40
Much more solid team now. Bit messy in terms of the rucks but good spine, no real weaknesses and impressive depth.
Bombers007 - Sydney
Backs: 2.5/5
Midfield: 4/5
Rucks: 3/5
Forward: 2.5/5
Depth: 2/5
Youth: 2.5/5
Improvement: 4/10
Total: 20.5/40
Congrats, you passed! Great midfield but the backs, rucks and forwards suffered because of it.
Brades - Adelaide
Backs: 4/5
Midfield: 2.5/5
Rucks: 3/5
Forward: 3/5
Depth: 4/5
Youth: 5/5
Improvement: 5/10
Total: 26.5/40
Backs are solid though it always was, forward line is a total mess and midfield is unproven. Promising young KPP’s though. Amazed at Buckley getting a spot on the bench.
Tippaz - Collingwood
Backs: 1.5/5
Midfield: 3/5
Rucks: 3.5/5
Forward: 3/5
Depth: 3/5
Youth: 2.5/5
Improvement: 4/10
Total: 20.5/40
Backline is a shambles, midfield is skilful and the forward line is a bit hit and miss. Lay**** was a good inclusion.
Eagle_Rock - Brisbane
Backs: 2.5/5
Midfield: 4.5/5
Rucks: 3.5/5
Forward: 4/5
Depth: 3/5
Youth: 2.5/5
Improvement: 5/10
Total: 25/40
Great midfield and some top forwards but don’t rate most of the backs at all.
Peterfitz - Hawthorn
Backs: 4/5
Midfield: 4/5
Rucks: 3/5
Forward: 4/5
Depth: 4/5
Youth: 5/5
Improvement: 7/10
Total: 31/40
Solid, young and skilfull all over. Rate all the backs except lack of genuine KPP’s hurt, same with the rucks.
Hinzey - Richmond
Backs: 2.5/5
Midfield: 3/5
Rucks: 2/5
Forward: 2.5/5
Depth: 3/5
Youth: 2.5/5
Improvement: 5/10
Total: 20.5/40
Too many honest players and not enough stars. Forward line is top heavy.
Gosllaur05 - North Melbourne
Backs: 3.5/5
Midfield: 4.5/5
Rucks: 2/5
Forward: 2.5/5
Depth: 2.5/5
Youth: 4/5
Improvement: 7/10
Total: 26/40
Fantastic midfield! Good backs, thought not sure on Hargrave and Goddard taking the best forwards and a satisfactory forward line.
Cormick - Essendon
Backs: 2/5
Midfield: 2.5/5
Rucks: 2.5/5
Forward: 2/5
Depth: 3/5
Youth: 3/5
Improvement: 3/10
Total: 18/40
Too many players that either didn’t play in 07 or aren’t playing in 08.
Plugg3r - West Coast
Backs: 4/5
Midfield: 3/5
Rucks: 3.5/5
Forward: 4/5
Depth: 2.5/5
Youth: 3/5
Improvement: 5/10
Total: 25/40
Was always solid because of the talent of the Eagles but no huge gains.
Well done to Loopy Cam who got the highest score and Rava and peterfitz who were both one vote off.
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Loopy Cam - St.Kilda
Backs: 3.5/5
Midfield: 4/5
Rucks: 4/5
Forward: 4/5
Depth: 1.5/5
Youth: 5/5
Improvement: 4/10
Total: 26/40
love the team. lots of exciting young players. probably not as good as the old team though.

Great_Source - Port Adelaide
Backs: 4/5
Midfield: 4.5/5
Rucks: 4.5/5
Forward: 5/5
Depth: 1/5
Youth: 2.5/5
Improvement: 8/10
Total: 29.5/40
i rate this the best team. he's got a good player in every position. Sam Fisher at CHB was a little bit dodgy but i'll pay it.

Crows4Flag - Adelaide
Backs: 3/5
Midfield: 4.5/5
Rucks: 1/5
Forward: 5/5
Depth: 1.5/5
Youth: 2.5/5
Improvement: 7/10
Total: 23.5/40
ace forwardline. and i judged Goodes & S.Burgoyne as mids. the only ruck is King, which is a huge concern.

Ravadongon - Western Bulldogs
Backs: 4/5
Midfield: 3/5
Rucks: 5/5
Forward: 3.5/5
Depth: 4/5
Youth: 3.5/5
Improvement: 7/10
Total: 30/40
well not the best team, but he scores well in depth/youth/improvement. ruck stocks are an embarrassment of riches. no recognised CHF tho.

Bombers007 - Sydney
Backs: 4.5/5
Midfield: 4/5
Rucks: 3.5/5
Forward: 1.5/5
Depth: 1/5
Youth: 1/5
Improvement: 5/10
Total: 20.5/40
i really like the backline and midfield, but the forwardline won't kick enough goals - doesn't own a recognised FF. depth and youth are a concern.

Brades - Adelaide
Backs: 4.5/5
Midfield: 1.5/5
Rucks: 1.5/5
Forward: 3/5
Depth: 4.5/5
Youth: 5/5
Improvement: 6/10
Total: 26/40
obviously has a strong emphasis on youth. strong backline, and has lots of depth. but Goodwin is his only proven inside midfielder.

PAFC - Melbourne
Backs: 1.5/5
Midfield: 4/5
Rucks: 3.5/5
Forward: 1.5/5
Depth: 4/5
Youth: 5/5
Improvement: 5/10
Total: 24.5/40
he owns a lot of good young players between 17-22. desperately needs more run off halfback, and more goals up forward.

Tippaz - Collingwood
Backs: 2/5
Midfield: 4.5/5
Rucks: 3.5/5
Forward: 4.5/5
Depth: 3/5
Youth: 4/5
Improvement: 5/10
Total: 27.5/40
(this is how i would rate my own team)... defence is a worry.

Eagle_Rock - Brisbane
Backs: 3.5/5
Midfield: 4.5/5
Rucks: 3.5/5
Forward: 5/5
Depth: 4/5
Youth: 2.5/5
Improvement: 8/10
Total: 31/40
i rate this the 2nd best team overall. whadda great forwardline!! tall defenders are my only concern.

Peterfitz - Hawthorn
Backs: 4.5/5
Midfield: 4.5/5
Rucks: 3/5
Forward: 3/5
Depth: 4.5/5
Youth: 5/5
Improvement: 7/10
Total: 31.5/40
this is the strongest list, but the team is structurally weak. Bolton is not a FB, Waite is not a recognised CHF, and Kosi is not a no.1 ruck.

Hinzey - Richmond
Backs: 2/5
Midfield: 3.5/5
Rucks: 2.5/5
Forward: 3/5
Depth: 3.5/5
Youth: 3/5
Improvement: 5/10
Total: 22.5/40
not a good team. he's actually done quite well considering he was working with Richmond.

Gosllaur05 - North Melbourne
Backs: 4/5
Midfield: 5/5
Rucks: 1.5/5
Forward: 1/5
Depth: 1/5
Youth: 1.5/5
Improvement: 4/10
Total: 18/40
best midfield i've seen. forwardline won't score any goals though.

Cormick - Essendon
Backs: 1.5/5
Midfield: 3.5/5
Rucks: 3/5
Forward: 1/5
Depth: 3/5
Youth: 4.5/5
Improvement: 3/10
Total: 19.5/40
not a good team, but everything looks set for the future. Kreuzer & Cotchin were great gets.

Plugg3r - West Coast
Backs: 5/5
Midfield: 2/5
Rucks: 4.5/5
Forward: 4.5/5
Depth: 2.5/5
Youth: 2/5
Improvement: 6/10
Total: 26.5/40
best backline i've seen. Hawkins is a massive coup for the eagles, but the loss of Cousins was a major blow.

*all done. Hinzey's scores have been updated too (i accidently merged the beginning of Hinzey's with the rest of Gos)

my awards
1st = peterfitz 31.5pts
2nd = eaglerock 31pts
3rd = ravadongon 30pts
best list = peterfitz
best team = greatsource
best backline = plugg3r
best midfield = gosllaur05
best rucks = ravadongon
best forwardline = crows4flag
best young talent = brades
most improved = greatsource
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