Wallace & Miller - You are Fully responsible

[stackson]

On Saturday i suffered the indignity of watching Richmond play Carlton at the MCG. It was a great occassion, but unfortunately the game was terrible. Richmond continually cooked thier teammates by handballing into trouble or trying 15 metre sideways kicks that did not even hit targets. This when there was Richardson, Morton & Hughes, all tall targets to kick to.

This so called "Gameplan" was unforgivable - ecspecially considering O'Halphin was very vulnerable in any one on one contest with either Hughes or Morton.
If Wallace had have noticed this he would have instructed his players to pump the ball in quickly and pile on the pressure. Richmond actually have some talented young players (Cotchin, Morton, Hughes) and these guys need to play without the restriction of Wallace's poor coaching.

Richmond need to get rid of Wallace now and start again. Wallace is finished as a coach and continually makes excuses for his poor coaching. He has all his mates in the media eating out of his hand. As for Greg Miller he is not Neil Balmes bootlace as a football manager.

[OLDFELLA]

Originally Posted by stackson

On Saturday i suffered the indignity of watching Richmond play Carlton at the MCG. It was a great occassion, but unfortunately the game was terrible. Richmond continually cooked thier teammates by handballing into trouble or trying 15 metre sideways kicks that did not even hit targets. This when there was Richardson, Morton & Hughes, all tall targets to kick to.

This so called "Gameplan" was unforgivable - ecspecially considering O'Halphin was very vulnerable in any one on one contest with either Hughes or Morton.
If Wallace had have noticed this he would have instructed his players to pump the ball in quickly and pile on the pressure. Richmond actually have some talented young players (Cotchin, Morton, Hughes) and these guys need to play without the restriction of Wallace's poor coaching.

Richmond need to get rid of Wallace now and start again. Wallace is finished as a coach and continually makes excuses for his poor coaching. He has all his mates in the media eating out of his hand. As for Greg Miller he is not Neil Balmes bootlace as a football manager.

As a neutral, I enjoyed the game as a spectacle and it was only the last 10 minutes you lost it.

Who instead of Wallace?

[stackson]

There always must be an alternative, I agree.

The process of replacement would include the following: Neale Daniher (great coach, great club salesman, great man), Chris Bond (Ex Tiger, good experience), Guy McKenna, John Logmire.

I am very confident that whichever of the above 4 had the right fit for the tigers, they would be better off than with Wallace. I also watched the game as a neutral..

[mangalin]

Originally Posted by stackson

On Saturday i suffered the indignity of watching Richmond play Carlton at the MCG. It was a great occassion, but unfortunately the game was terrible. Richmond continually cooked thier teammates by handballing into trouble or trying 15 metre sideways kicks that did not even hit targets. This when there was Richardson, Morton & Hughes, all tall targets to kick to.

This so called "Gameplan" was unforgivable - ecspecially considering O'Halphin was very vulnerable in any one on one contest with either Hughes or Morton.
If Wallace had have noticed this he would have instructed his players to pump the ball in quickly and pile on the pressure. Richmond actually have some talented young players (Cotchin, Morton, Hughes) and these guys need to play without the restriction of Wallace's poor coaching.

Richmond need to get rid of Wallace now and start again. Wallace is finished as a coach and continually makes excuses for his poor coaching. He has all his mates in the media eating out of his hand. As for Greg Miller he is not Neil Balmes bootlace as a football manager.

Stackson I agree with you wholeheartedly pal. My response will be quite lengthy.

Why Terry Wallace is pathetic. John Blakey should coach Richmond in 09

The "real" reasons Richmond lost 100G at the G, Against Carlton


1. Flooding back - is making our players too tired in last quarters. Do not flood. Sometimes you have to know that your 6 defenders and midfielders are actually manning up and playing '2 way football'. NO MORE FLOODING. Richard Tambling is the softest footballer I have seen in a long time watching A.F.L. Play him as a tagger next week or piss him off.



2. Richmond players have had cancer for 26 seasons. These players are infected.

Johnson, Hyde, Tivendale, Howat, Pettifer, Tambling, King, Jackson, Bowden, Richardson. - If you play these players = not understanding the realities of the game.



3. When the game was up for grabs - Tambling and Nathan Brown did not put their heads over the ball. Tambling must be dropped - and traded or delisted at years end.



4. Newman will never man up - and will always be beaten when he has to.



5. Our ruckmen are just simply, Simply pathetic.



6. Kick Outs. Disgraceful. Get a 15 man zone happening. Why allow them easy access to the wings?



7. Simmonds and Pattison are no Ruckmen. Play 3 'ruckmen' with Graham to play. Interchange the '3' at Ruck / INT / F.P all game.



Changes: Tambling, King, Hyde, Pattison?? = Out.



In: Rance, Graham / Cartledge, Edwards, Thursfield or Oakley-Nicholls.



If you don't eradicate the 'senior players' at Richmond who have CANCER - they will destroy your careers as coaches in the AFL. Terry Wallace, David King, Brian Royal: Richmond players have ran that asylum for 26 yrs - get tougher you bunch of pansies



Terry Wallace is not working at PUNT ROAD : We want John Blakey A.S.A.P!!



The Senior players at the Richmond football club are what I call 'Cancers'. They destroy the fabric and must be cut out before they destroy the very existence of one of the great pleasures of MY LIFE - THE RICHMOND FOOTBALL CLUB. Act soon or we are doomed.




Our young kids are fine, they will develop and be good players but it is the senior blokes who have the loser mentality that we have to erode. The 4/5 players players directly under this paragraph are cancers. Cut the cancer out to survive.

K. Johnson(played in 2 flags) does he need any more individual success? Does he strive for us to be successful, not in my eyes. Never a senior core leader at Adelaide . (Rehn, Riccutio, McLeod) e.t.c. Delist/ Trade. Retire

J. Bowden soft unaccountable footballer Delist/Trade. Retire

K. Pettrified as above.

M. Richardson is a perennial loser like Bowden. Delist / Trade/ Retire.

I think Simmonds is o.k. But as a forward. Ruck work stinks!



Polak, Newman - No defensive tendancies at all.



Schulz - complete dud. Weak / soft *****.



The next leadership group should be like this. From next year!!

N.Foley (Capt), Polo (v.c), Pattison, O-Nicholls Riewoldt (the last 3 deputies).

It is my belief that if they keep the Bowdens, Pettrified, Johnson and Richardson at years end I will probably call it quits as a member.

I guarantee if the cancer is gone, you go back to living a vibrant existence.

Statistics from 1996: (Mostly concerned with the lack of tackling and the 1% per centers Terry Wallace coached sides do in a season).


Tackling

1996: Sydney = Runners up Rated 1st in tackling Footscray: 16th
1997: Adelaide = Premiers 1st in tackling W.B 12th
1998: Adelaide = Premiers 1st W.B 11th
1999: Kangaroos = Premiers 4th W.B 10th
2000: Essendon = Premiers 2nd W.B 14th

(Note Essendon’s only loss in 2000 was to the Western Bulldogs in round 21. Western Bulldogs tackled more than Essendon that evening.

2001: Brisbane Lions = Premiers 4th in tackles W.B 15th

(Note in 2002 and 2003 Brisbane was rated no 1 in tackles in the competition).

2005: Sydney = Premiers 1st in tackling Richmond 15th
2006: Melbourne = ? 1st in tackling Richmond 11th

2007: Richmond = last.

2008: Richmond = last.


1 per centers (Smothers, Shepard’s, blocks,) e.t.c
2000: Essendon = Premiers 4th in 1 per centers W.B 16th

2001, 2002, 2003, 2004: Brisbane = Runners up and Premiers 3 straight years
No 1 in one per centers W.B in 2001 15th

2005: Sydney = Premiers 1st in one per centers Richmond 16th
2006: Melbourne = ? 1st in one per centers Richmond 15th

2007: Richmond = last

2008: Richmond = last.

Note: Premiership teams in the history of the game have been good tackling sides. Tackling does many things in a game of football; it places pressure on the opposition and even places perceived pressure when you do it correctly. It obviously fatigues sides later in the contest also. In Finals games when there is a definite improvement in areas mentioned above, it has been proven that Terry Wallace coached teams do not tackle and apply physical pressure and 1%’s on the ball carrier, or in the game in general.
In Wallace’s best years in charge of a team 1997 and 1998 they were overrun and then smashed by the crows in both years. You could see Adelaide lift especially in 1997 because they were not being tackled, and therefore were not tired at games end. It gave them the ability to run the game out.

Wallace at the Bulldogs had one of the best tacklers the game has seen in Tony Liberatore. Even still it did not assist tackle numbers team wise. Romero, West, Dimma, and others were also productive tacklers or should have been.
Wallace allows teams with good foot skills too much time and space. In Richmond ’s severe losses this year, the opposition has eased through the midfield with the mindset they would not be tackled. (Figures above prove this) Sydney were allowed too much time and space. If you give AFL footballer’s time and space they surely will cause havoc.

Wallace is successful in limiting contested marks, as well as hard ball gets to the opposition, although this may be a thing of the past. Most teams now play with an uncontested aspect to assist their running players. Teams with numerous forward options will often beat a Terry Wallace coached side. He likes to have a defender such as a Bowden free at Richmond to zone off or be the 3rd man up at the contest. At the Bulldogs Craig Ellis or Todd Curley would do that role.. If you are the opposition and you see this, you surely direct some football through Bowden to hurt them on the scoreboard.

Wallace has struggled to beat coaches such as Mark Williams, Schwab / Clarkson (Hawthorn), Malthouse, Roos and Matthews because of either their success at uncontested style of football, their ability to tackle fiercely, or the fact they have had numerous options up forward.

Wallace would probably like to play 22 wingman if he could. A fast running side that does not tackle. The purchase of Tambling and Oakley-Nicholls may come off, although at present Richmond stand 16th at clearances. Either at stop plays or centre breaks. In and under footballers would stop this trend. Richmond have refused to draft Nathan Jones and Jordan Lewis who are excellent at the stoppages, rather they chose Danny Meyer and Tambling types.

[mangalin]

The lack of an up and coming spine could spell disaster for Richmond . If you pressure Richmond ’s defence they do not have the ability to hit targets going forward. At the Bulldogs Wallace did not have the spine to win in September.
With the draft picks at his disposal (at Richmond ) he could have well and truly improved the position of Richmond ’s talls. However he has decided to go with the Western Bulldogs style again which did not pay dividends the first time around.

Wallace is a very smart business operator, has excellent media skills which will benefit the club with members and sponsorship. However it remains to be seen whether he will take the Richmond side to sustained success. The lack of tackling, sustained pressure, one per centers and clearances (with bigger bodies) need to be worked upon. Whether it will remains to be seen. As history and statistics show you need to be successful at tackling to win premierships. With Wallace at the helm it is highly doubtful.

Note: In Richmond ’s best seasons in recent times: 1995 and 2001 they were a good tackling side.
1995: 1st in total tackles
2001: 3rd in total tackles.

Richmond’s ‘senior core’ is the worst in the comp. It’s like cancer, cut it out and the cancer hopefully goes away.

We are going no-where until… Johnson, J.Bowden, Richardson, Pettifer, Tuck, Tivendale, are gone.

How long do we give these guys another 3 years? Get rid of em. Cancer riddled is Richmond . Harsh but true. When will people wake up? Why do the aforementioned deserve to be here any more?

Inspirational finals appearances, great leaders of men. Premiership Captains? Pathetic!

They have achieved very little in football and seem to get away with it. They would be the first blokes to – to get their paychecks as well.

These players have fooled supporters for far too long and if they are there next year we will gain another priority pick, but loose all forms of support from outside the club.

It is no co-incidence that we have lost close game this year as our ‘leaders’ are pathetic. Who would motivate when things get tough? No-one.

Think back and watch the finals against Essendon and Brisbane in 2001. The above players who were playing were terrible. Solomon beat Richo. Bowden had 29 uncontested possessions but we lost by nearly 100 points. Yet they are still there 6 seasons later- thriving on money given to them by our cash-strapped club.

Would supporters be disappointed if the aforementioned players left? It could be handled by saying more patience and I as a supporter would say o.k. They are gone, draft picks are coming and 2011 here we come! I would rather that than these muppets still getting a game.

It’s time to go… Johnson, J.Bowden, Richardson , Pettifer, Tuck, Tivendale:

Trade bait: Schulz, Meyer:

A good fullback could be found in Willets from Port.

Another inside midfielder could be Adam Thomson also from Port.

That is all.

Draft Strategy that Richmond may insert for this years trading and national U18’s championships in late June to Novembers / Decembers drafts.

As most would attest to, Richmond is required to rebuild now. We did not 2 years ago, and unfortunately Hawthorn and Collingwood have. They are not that far ahead of us and if we do things right, we could be ahead of both after the selections are made later in the year.

A couple of points:
Richmond needs 2 Crash and Bash ruckmen for centre square work.
Richmond requires more 2 – way runners that hurt when we have the ball, and negate when other sides do. We have too many downhill skiers at present. Tambling, Deledio, Meyer, Howat, Pettifer, Tuck Schulz. All have big areas of concern. Can it be rectified? Not all of them. See below.

This year’s crop. Not as deep this year, but quality will be found through to pick 40-50. We should trade accordingly.

Schulz: Trade with Doggies: For 3rd Round pick Cameron Faulkner, and Minson/Tim Walsh.
Pettifer: Trade with St Kilda for 3rd round Pick.
Tuck: Trade with Collingwood for 3rd round pick.

Delist: These players will never win Richmond a premiership. On ya bikes! Can you do it all at once? Doubtful but I would for our assault in 2011 or was that 3011?

Let’s prey that Carlton and Melbourne pick up soon.

We cannot afford to win games if it to the detriment of the priority pick, pick 1 and first pickings at the rookie and PSD’s draft selections.

I can hear the sleeping giant about to waken!

If we follow a similar structure to the one above, we will exceed Collingwood, Hawthorn and Carlton by the length of the Flemington straight. In my eyes we would have the much greater player personnel.

2011 here we come.

Keep in mind many things can happen before the lead up to the draft. However the names mentioned are quality players and will further advance our mighty football club.

No Priority Pick For Carlton : Last years PICKS analysis.

1. Richmond : Kreuzer = Seems competitive, see him more as a power forward. Smashed by Naitanui (ruck duels) in Perth . Too small for a ruckmen? In racing parlance: the one to beat. When in Ruck = behind the play Ruckmen. Sorry to say = Brad Ottens at the carnival when he was in the ruck, especially in last 2 games.

2. Melbourne : Cotchin = Same as Deledio. Never played against men. Cocky. Can’t break a tag like Brett also. Steer clear. Too much work.


3. Carlton : Palmer = Josh Carr with more flamboyance. Was fed by McGinnity and Masten in Perth . Will have trouble with weight. No thanks.

4. Adelaide : Masten = A rich man’s Jimmy Bartel. Class. Great Engine. Great, great leader. If Carlton gain picks 1 & 4 Masten is Richmond ’s man.


5. Fremantle: Rance = Tough. Darren Glass clone.

6. Brisbane : Morton = Overrated. Is soft. Birchall type. Too much work. How he won the medal is beyond me. Absolutely not.


7. Essendon: Kangars = Bombers to get him for spite (Marshmallows). Kidding. Athlete. Improving. Good closing speed. Bomber defenders getting old.

8. W.B: Henderson = Doggies need Key forwards.


9. ST Kilda: Pears = Would have liked Rance (Max is getting on) go for his mate. Reminds me of our Will Thursfield. 2nd Tall defender.

10. Haw: Grimes = Underrated. Like him. Old fashioned footballer. Utility type. Not for us though.


11. Syd: Myers / Hobbs = Myers is soft. Replacement for Kennelly. Hobbs is my smoky. Would love him at Richmond . Good pack mark and good hands. CHF.

12. Port: Ebert = Tradition continues. Like cousin. Both a little soft?


13. WC: Vespresmi = Overrated. Subi Special. = Nicoski.

14. Kang: Polkinghorne = Lenny Hayes. Kangas continue with clearance kings.


15. Coll: Maric = Cocky. Arrogant. Bad team-mate. Think Richo at his worst. Malthouse may think he can turn him around. He won’t. Needs whole forward fifty to survive. Will never have stamina required to reach midfield.

16. Geelong : Bellchambers = Clark Keating. Good tap ruckmen.. Underrated. Better ‘tap’ ruckmen / and centre square ruckmen than Kreuzer. Ottens and King hate each others guts. Replacement.


17. Rich: McGinnity = Rich man’s Dean Polo / Brady Rawlings. Lock down man. Great kick. A ripper. Should be ours.

18. Melb: McEvoy = Overrated. Terrible carnival. Dees need Ruckmen.


19. Rich: Gourdis = Lance Franklin, not as quick. Has tricks. Physical specimen unlike Franklin . Get him as I think Hughes may fail. Hughes is far too timid for my liking. Underrated is Gourdis.

20. Melb: Aaron Joseph = tough onballer. Good clearance player. Reminds me of Lonergan from Ess, who will be a gun. Tasmanian mids are a good group coming through. Craig Cameron has got Tassies before (Green) Joseph would eat Green if he had too.


2008 Draft picks: NAB National Draft

Keep an eye out for Michael Hurley (VM) & Chris Yarran (WA). Both going to be champions of the game. Picks 1 and 4 next year?

Don’t get spooked by Naitanui. Is only an athlete playing football. Will not make it. The 2 boys above are outstanding, outstanding footballers.

Michael Hurley: Bottom age. 192+ growing plug in and play anywhere up the spine.

Chris Yarran: = 16 yrs old. More clever version of our own Peterson (who by the way is a player). Think Didak, Dale Thomas, Maric (draft this year), Ebert (Port) Akermanis, Brad Johnson, Daniel Motlop, Brett Deledio and Rhan Hooper all in one. Superstar. Plays tall.



The ideal set up of an AFL team now is this:

18 Midfielders:

4 Rucks:

6 Tall forwards (With 3 potentially filling in at Ruck):

7 Tall Defenders:

2 Back Pocket specialists:

2 Forward pocket specialists:

Fill them in at your leisure.

[mangalin]

Richmond has holes at the 194-196cm footballers, it should be addressed this draft.. I would basically pick all talls in the draft. McGuane and Thursfield are too small. When you start getting 197+ you seem to be the in between height. E.g. Pattison and Ryder. Ruckmen we choose should be over 200 cm, as the the new rucking rule favours the giants to smash it forward.

Thanks in advance.

Conspiracy Theories and Why we are so bad?


1. Wallace left all three clubs he was associated with for money. Did Richmond owe him cash? The Doggies certainly did. Made it hard for Alan Joyce as well.
2. Royal would have got the dogs job, (Rohde) however Wallace told 'senior players' at doggies that Royal called them soft so no Royal for Dogs.
3. Greg Miller had Fitzroy / North done but Daphne convened and stopped it. Still angry?
4. Francis Jackson - part of deal that saw Pitura go to Richmond . Jackson to South / Sydney . Still angry?
5. Wallace wants out, reputation in footballing circles is nearly gone (media) too, asks Joseph to cause trouble and get him out of Richmond . Therefore landing at the Roo's.
6. Maybe the big 2 Wallace and Miller see Richmond 's best chance to climb up is to merge. Becoming similar to the Brisbane Lions.
7. If Miller was 'keen' on Renouf from Hawks he is a deadset tosser of a recruiter. Hopeless footballer.
8. With Miller knowing North are nearly gone down here, is he making the tigers seem as they should be the ones moving.
9. Signing Krakeour, Tambling e.t.c for 3 year deals will hurt us if Tambling continues to be soft.
10. Miller / Joseph may want Sheedy at Rich, Pagan at Melbourne so Miller and Pagan are reunited and still in the 'money' knowing Melbourne will never - now -merge.
11. Solomon and Copeland deals = more money wasted.
12. Thomas berating players. Thomas knows how to get coaches to leave contracts doesn’t he? Blight / Pagan at the Roos. Wallace wants out. He will be a Roos coach if he can get out of his contract with us. Wallace is seeing reputation and media – afterlife slipping away as we speak. North on Gold Coast would mean AFL assistance. Like Bears takeover of Fitzroy. Matthews reaped the rewards. Terry is not 1/100th the coach Matthews is.

Do not let Miller recruit. And do not let him near a chequebook. Miller is not a Richmond man. He is a North and South Melbourne man. Never forget that.

So therefore:

Pettifer, Schulz, Tuck, Johnson, Hughes, Hyde, Bowden, Tivendale, Howat, and Coughlan should be swapped around or let go.


• Notes congratulations to Wallace for tanking last year. Did not think his ego would have handled it. Great stuff.

(Trades) Schulz for Meesan

• Plus the aforementioned and we have a good side coming through. A better side than I thought we would. The players who we can let go have value for the first time in recent memory.


ROOKIES:

Searl ( North Ballarat )

Gazzo ( Coburg )

P.S Hughes and Howat are very soft. Watch closely. Should be traded or let go.

Defense wins championships. Nearly always do. This is an American advertisement, yet it has merit to all sports all over the world. If you stop your opponent from scoring you will have more chance of winning won’t you? NFL coaches who have employed this mantra. Belichick, Parcells, Cowher, Dungy. If you haven’t heard of these guys look them up. AFL coaches today who employ this mantra. Worsfold, Roos, Matthews, (now Lyon) the first 3 established set back 6’s, in their terrific teams.

Attacking teams can win home and away games but struggle at finals time. There are Numerous examples in a lot of sports. Phoenix Suns is one in the NBA. Spain in soccer. Eade and Daniher, established attacking coaches, how many premierships? None. And they will never win one with the style of play they dictate on players. Wallace is following quickly on their lead.

Under Wallace, Richmond has not improved its defensive mindset one bit. Wallace is a glorified media performer who loves the lights of Vegas and all it entails. However when he is at the blackjack table in a big contest, ability and defensive tendencies go out the window and he will be found wanting. All bluff, no action. You get the similarity. Who make the best boxers? Boxers who defend the knockout punch early and are able to counterattack with flurries and uppercuts right throughout the duration of the fight. Wallace would come out like Ali and like him would have the media’s attention. Yet Wallace would have no idea about Rope a dope would he? I am sure Wallace believes he needs to and that his players have to be visually entertaining to the crowd. No. Tackle hard, man up, no zoning, and pressure the ball carrier would do me.

How can we improve? Surely get you back 6 working together for 2 years. A set back six is crucial in premiership teams, Brisbane, North, Sydney, W.C (all dynasties in the sense of the word) all had a set back 6.

b.p Raines. F.b Thursfield b.p McGuane.
h.b O-Nicholls.. Chb. Polak. H.b Newman. (Bowden not in my long term plans) Play them together, the back 6 is like a team in a team, they will learn tendencies, weaknesses and learn to love each other and more importantly win the little battles.



The following players will need to be moved on and none of them will be a premiership player for us.

J. Bowden, Hyde, Jackson, Pettifer, Howat, Moore, Tivendale, Hughes, Johnson, Schulz and RICHO MAN.

And if there are on people on here that think otherwise, then they are not footy smart, or lack the killer instincts that other clubs do.



With our midfield struggling, why can’t Wallet introduce a midfield flood. Play your hff’s and one forward pocket as extra midfielders. This does many things. It opens up our forward half. Only 3 possibly 4 blokes up there. ONE on One. Advantage forwards. It will make it harder for sides to win stoppages, and out bulk us at set plays and the like. As well as supporting our young ruckmen.

So basically the team will line up in soccer terms. 6-9-3. More bodies around where the ball is.

I can be a believer of Wallace if he improves the teams: 1%’s, tackling numbers, stoppages and shepards. He has been poor at all of those at the bullies and now with us. Is it improving? No.



Richmond should Tank from here on in. We need a CHF (BEN REID - TYPE) and Warnock from Freo.



John Blakey should be the new Richmond football coach in 2009.





This is the only way to improve tackling, 1%'s and clearances (both centre and around the ground) . Richmond are LAST in all areas in 08 and fix up ordinary disposal is... Massive pressure at training, if players complete disposal at training under enormous pressure - they will be able to kick and handpass in a game.. Simmonds and Pattison (Stink at the centre bounce)



If players do not train well - they do not play: And if they do not train well for periods of time they don't play AFL footy with Richmond again. EVER.



Get tough on these softies Terry. If you don't the players yet - again win at Punt Road as they have done for the better half of 26 years.



I bet the players win. They always win at Punt road. The place in Richmond where the inmates run the asylum.



Get tougher Terry and coaching staff - as your careers in AFL are dwindling right before your very eyes.



The senior players at Richmond are cancer. Terry and coaching staff - by bringing back certain players - it has seemed you to know have this killer disease!





Terry Wallace teams do not tackle and do not do the team things (1%'s) - Shephards, smothers, blocks e.t.c to be effective in finals. Simple. The information below will tell you all you need to know about Wallace 'soft tackling teams'. I do not want Terry fired. I want his teams to lead the tackling and 1%'s stats. Terry if you improve this area, you will move from a good coach to a terrific coach. Do it now - or you may have to leave.



Statistics from 1996: (Mostly concerned with the lack of tackling and the 1% per centers Terry Wallace coached sides do in a season).





Tackling



1996: Sydney = Runners up Rated 1st in tackling Footscray: 16th

1997: Adelaide = Premiers 1st in tackling W.B 12th

1998: Adelaide = Premiers 1st W.B 11th

1999: Kangaroos = Premiers 4th W.B 10th

2000: Essendon = Premiers 2nd W.B 14th



(Note Essendon’s only loss in 2000 was to the Western Bulldogs in round 21. Western Bulldogs tackled more than Essendon that evening.



2001: Brisbane Lions = Premiers 4th in tackles W.B 15th



(Note in 2002 and 2003 Brisbane was rated no 1 in tackles in the competition).



2005: Sydney = Premiers 1st in tackling Richmond 15th

2006: Melbourne = ? 1st in tackling Richmond 11th



2007: Richmond = last.



2008: Richmond = last.





1 per centers (Smothers, Shepard’s, blocks,) e.t.c

2000: Essendon = Premiers 4th in 1 per centers W.B 16th



2001, 2002, 2003, 2004: Brisbane = Runners up and Premiers 3 straight years

No 1 in one per centers W.B in 2001 15th



2005: Sydney = Premiers 1st in one per centers Richmond 16th

2006: Melbourne = ? 1st in one per centers Richmond 15th



2007: Richmond = last



2008: Richmond = last.



Note: Premiership teams in the history of the game have been good tackling sides. Tackling does many things in a game of football; it places pressure on the opposition and even places perceived pressure when you do it correctly. It obviously fatigues sides later in the contest also. In Finals games when there is a definite improvement in areas mentioned above, it has been proven that Terry Wallace coached teams do not tackle and apply physical pressure and 1%’s on the ball carrier, or in the game in general.

In Wallace’s best years in charge of a team 1997 and 1998 they were overrun and then smashed by the crows in both years. You could see Adelaide lift especially in 1997 because they were not being tackled, and therefore were not tired at games end. It gave them the ability to run the game out.



Wallace at the Bulldogs had one of the best tacklers the game has seen in Tony Liberatore. Even still it did not assist tackle numbers team wise. Romero, West, Dimma, and others were also productive tacklers or should have been.

Wallace allows teams with good foot skills too much time and space. In Richmond’s severe losses this year, the opposition has eased through the midfield with the mindset they would not be tackled. (Figures above prove this) Sydney were allowed too much time and space. If you give AFL footballer’s time and space they surely will cause havoc.



Wallace is successful in limiting contested marks, as well as hard ball gets to the opposition, although this may be a thing of the past. Most teams now play with an uncontested aspect to assist their running players. Teams with numerous forward options will often beat a Terry Wallace coached side. He likes to have a defender such as a Bowden free at Richmond to zone off or be the 3rd man up at the contest. At the Bulldogs Craig Ellis or Todd Curley would do that role. If you are the opposition and you see this, you surely direct some football through Bowden to hurt them on the scoreboard.

[mangalin]

Wallace would probably like to play 22 wingman if he could. A fast running side that does not tackle. The purchase of Tambling and Oakley-Nicholls may come off, although at present Richmond stand 16th at clearances. Either at stop plays or centre breaks. In and under footballers would stop this trend. Richmond have refused to draft Nathan Jones and Jordan Lewis who are excellent at the stoppages, rather they chose Danny Meyer and Tambling types.



The lack of an up and coming spine could spell disaster for Richmond. If you pressure Richmond’s defence they do not have the ability to hit targets going forward. At the Bulldogs Wallace did not have the spine to win in September.

With the draft picks at his disposal (at Richmond) he could have well and truly improved the position of Richmond’s talls. However he has decided to go with the Western Bulldogs style again which did not pay dividends the first time around.



Wallace is a very smart business operator, has excellent media skills which will benefit the club with members and sponsorship. However it remains to be seen whether he will take the Richmond side to sustained success. The lack of tackling, sustained pressure, one per centers and clearances (with bigger bodies) need to be worked upon. Whether it will remains to be seen. As history and statistics show you need to be successful at tackling to win premierships. With Wallace at the helm it is highly doubtful.



Note: In Richmond’s best seasons in recent times: 1995 and 2001 they were a good tackling side.

1995: 1st in total tackles

2001: 3rd in total tackles.

1. Michael Hurley - top 10.

2. Chris Yarran - top 10

3. Nick Liddle (Coburg) - Rookie.

4. Foster (Ruckmen - Coburg - 2nds) - Can play: a taller (Charman) Rookie.

5. Michael Searl (North Ballarat) - 196cm - CHB) Skinny. Rookie.

6. Fort Caruso (defensive forward - Hooper) dual sided. Rookie.

7. Warnock - Freo - 206cm - Beast. Agile. Tough. Likes contested footy. 2nd round trade (23 - 36) + Freo giving up their 4th Rounder to us.

8. Adam Thomson - Port: Clearance / Stoppage king. 3rd round - trade.



The recruiters must go 'tall' this draft. We have holes at (194-196) for K.P.P's and 202+ for Ruckmen.



Miller / Jackson or Cameron (Dees) have not recruited this type of players at the Tiges / Dee's respectively. It is needed now.



Players who can kick / who are agile, who can play contested football and who can tackle are important. These players must be over 194+ (2 for K.P.P / and 2 for Ruck / depth are needed this draft).



The names mentioned (Talls) are productive. The others are good kicks, who are tough and can lay tackles.



Our Tackling is putrid. Wallace's tackling rates at all clubs are putrid. Get a coach who demands tackling is a must.

The Assistant coaches at Richmond are simply puppets for Terry.


No doubt - Craig McRae has been outstanding and with 'success' as a player has assisted our club - he has been excellent. However, we need another 'young' coach - who has been involved in premierships in recent times.



Clubs - who tackle well - and players who have to 'grasp' at everything they have got - both physically and mentally - to be successful make the best coaches - normally.



As we have a deficiency in tackling numbers - surely a midfielder - who will retire this season - who loved to tackle would be an excellent pick-up for us; as an assistant coach - working generally at stoppages, tackling and gameplans through the centre corridor.



Sydney: Ben Matthews, Nic Fosdike -



Brisbane: Nigel Lappin, Shaun Hart,



Geelong - do not have any-one old enough / or who will retire this season.



Adelaide, West Coast - do not have the tackling numbers in terms of teams / players.



Lappin / Ben Matthews would be superb. Nigel is a better player than that of just a 'plodder and trier' - however his knowledge and gut running will teach our blokes a lot. Ben Matthews - was a dour - if not consistent performer / who tried hard in most facets of the game.



Keep in mind - with Gold Coast and West Sydney entering soon - these players may know players / politics involved in the new organisation.



Ben Matthews and or Nigel Lappin and or both would bolster our coaching ranks even further.



Both blokes would be brilliant as development coaches - allowing Craig McRae to get more hands on - on match day.

To the recruiters of the R.F.C (C. Cameron, F. Jackson, G. Miller, T. Free of the Richmond F.C. Some possible pick-ups. The time has come people. Draft Talls in the 2008 NAB 'National Draft'. Anymore than 196 = Pattison and Ryder = no set position. What we need to do is get the KPP's of the 194-196 range in this draft.


In the Championships: Under 18. Must be 194cm+ for K.P.P - CHF / CHB. Both Underage.



1. Jack Watts Vic Metro. 194cm

2. Lewis Johnstone. South Australia. 193+ (growing)



In the U/18 TAC CUP. Must be 194cm / 196+ for K.P.P - CHF / CHB. Anymore than 196 = Pattison and Ryder = no set position.



1. Lucas Boyd - Geelong Falcons. 194cm

2. Jayden Post - Western Jets - 195cm



Playing in the VFL: Must be 194cm+ for K.P.P - CHF / CHB.



Searl - North Ballarat. 196cm CHB

Paul Colbert. - Northern Bullants - 194cm. CHF



Can't find where this boy is playing: Ryan Hobbs - North Ballarat / Victoria Country Squad member last year. 194cm. CHB / CHF





Ruckmen: Must be over 200 cm's. Apart from Putt, we need taller Ruckmen - especially with the new Ruck Rule. I am sick and tired using 'Hybrids' in the Ruck. The Rucks have cost us at least 2/3 wins this year. Rucks are either 200cm's or are not Ruckmen.



1. Robert Warnock. Freo. 206 cm. Trade for 2nd Round pick / Or Third and a player. If we give Shockers a round 2 pick - they give us a 4th rounder too.



2. Hawthorn Ruckmen: Campbell / Taylor. With Renouf and Bailey on the list how many Rucks can you have. Have a peak at contract status. No more than a third rounder for Taylor / Campbell.



3. Andrew Browne - Mansfield: Murray Bushrangers. 203cm -



4. Steven Foster - (Gippsland) 200cm. Coburg Tigers / 2nd's. This kid is good. Tough. Jamie Charman - Style. Real competitive beast!



Tackling midfielders / Flankers / Taggers: Who can still hit targets by foot (Which we lack in abundance).



1. Farran Priest - Murray Bushrangers.



2. Michael Stockdale - Gippsland Power



3. Nathan Schroder - Western Jets.



Love these kids playing for Coburg: To keep the "merger" happy - Select these boys - possibly.



1. Fort Caruso - Don't care about his size - he is a Craig McRae special. Defensive forward - we have lacked. Dual sided. Little champ.



2. Nick Liddle. - Watched him 6 times this season. Very clever, hard, good kick. When our 'spine is set' (With boys above) he will be the gloss on top.



3. Already mentioned: Steven Foster. How this kid is not on a Rookie list is amazing. Great competitor. Charman Like. Taller than Jamie!

[mangalin]

The List as it stands:



We have enough - outside linking players now. We have enough K.P.P's at the 190 - 193 cm range. What we need to do is get the KPP's of the 194-196 range in this draft - for them to be ready when our midfield is physically mature. The time is now! It takes 3 yrs / 4yrs for a 194-196 KPP to be 'AFL ready'.



I must state I Love 'Michael Hurley - Northern Knights and Chris Yarran - Swan Districts. However, they are surplus to our needs right now. Be careful of KPP's from South Australia - they do not seem to come on as quick as clubs would like (r.e Hughes) - ditto for Johnstone?



Retired / Delisted: Jackson, Bowden, Hyde, Howat (rookie).



Trade: Chris Newman, Andrew Raines: are surplus to our needs now - with Connors / Casserley / McMahon / O-Nicholls on board. Raines could only stay if he become 'an inside mid'.



Chris Newman - would garner I presume an early / late 2nd round choice. Take it - as Chris does not tackle - and has suspect defensive abilities.



Raines - Late 2nd round choice / or wait for Gold Coast??



Pettifer: Soft / unaccountable footballer. Could play in a dinner suit. Late 3rd round pick. Again surplus to our needs with, Morton, Edwards, Collard, White - our crumbers / defensive forwards.



Get as many picks as you can this season before Gold Coast - enters drafts.



Collard / Cartledge added to senior list.



So Draft for the Tigers:



Round 1: K.P.P 194-196: CHF.



1. Jack Watts.

2. Lewis Johnstone.

3. McKernan (only if you think he can play CHF) and is quick and agile.

4. Trengrove: (only if you think he can play CHF) and is quick and agile.



Round 2: Ruckman - 200cm +



1. Trade - re above. Warnock?

2. Andrew Browne.



Round 2 (Newman) trade: K.P.P: CHF / FF. 194-196cm.



Late Round 2: (Raines trade) K.P.P: C.H.B / F.B.



I love Thursfield. Be an even better player if he was on the third tall / small-marking forwards (Medhurst's of the world).



Round 3: Hard-nosed mid. Good kicking skills. Leader.



Late Round 3: (Pettifer trade): Ruckman: 200cm+



Round 4: A speculative pick. A junior you see developing / who could play at Under 18 level again next season.



Rookies: 3 to choose. Only Silvestor on the Rookie list still.



1. Steven Foster

2. Fort Caruso

3. Liddle / Lucas Boyd / Jayden Post.



Questions I would love answered.



1. Any chance we could 'Ray Hall' Greg Tivendale and allow Cartledge / Collard to play seniors?



2. How is Dave Gourdis travelling? Do you see him as a F.B or a lead up C.H.F?



3. Dean Putt - is he a forward or a chance to be a ruckman also.



4. Alex Rance - what is his best position? CHB or FB?



5. Danny Meyer / Dean Polo? How are they going? Will they be delisted?



6. Why choose Silvestor (Who I like - as a strong - lock down F.B - Could spell Thursty to a third tall's role) if you are not going to play him? Is the 'Big Cat' part of the teams plans?

[stackson]

Those stats are really interesting, and if you watch Richmond play live the stats make total sense. I agree with all the players that you would like to trade other than Richo - i still think he adds value to that team - it's the others i'm more concerned about. I reckon Joel Bowden and Nathan Brown would be the two most unaccountable footballers in the AFL. The great thing is that Cotchin is a star - he can weave between players and alter his course directly toward goal - he has great vision and he can kick. It's not all doom and gloom, but enough is enough. It is really important for the club that they do not allow Wallace to coach nexy year..

[jas929406]

Originally Posted by stackson

Those stats are really interesting, and if you watch Richmond play live the stats make total sense. I agree with all the players that you would like to trade other than Richo - i still think he adds value to that team - it's the others i'm more concerned about. I reckon Joel Bowden and Nathan Brown would be the two most unaccountable footballers in the AFL. The great thing is that Cotchin is a star - he can weave between players and alter his course directly toward goal - he has great vision and he can kick. It's not all doom and gloom, but enough is enough. It is really important for the club that they do not allow Wallace to coach nexy year..

Its not the coach that is the problem i think.....The players themselves have to wear the pressure as well.


All Richmond supporters like to blame the coach ,like my Brother who is a mad Tigers fan,But like i said to him and i will say it to you all as well.......
Who is going to do anything better than Wallace and lets be serious about it.

Sheedy demands respect from all in the football world and maybe he could be your man,if you dont get him you will start from the bottom again.(Sheedy should be the new coach of Richmond IF you all boot Wallace out)........But remember what Pagen did for Carlton,and he was a legend coach before he went to Carlton???.

Football is a funny game and believe me as a West Coast Supporter i know what you will be going through.