The Big V vs Allstars

[Brades]

Originally Posted by PAFC

Heard of Stadium Australia(ANZ Stadium)? 80k capacity and has held the biggest crowd outside of Victoria in an AFL game.

Plus Brades anyone who has attended AAMI Stadium knows how much the wind has an effect on the game. To say the MCG is the same is simply foolish.

Ok so why have the last 5 games I have attended at AAMI all been 2km/h winds or less inside the stadium? No answer, didn't think so.

[PAFC]

Perhaps because it wasn't a windy day? Did you attend the Port vs. St.Kilda game? Worst wind I have ever felt in my life and anyone there will back me up with that. Going to a few games a year does not give you any more knowledge on AAMI than Donz.

[Brades]

Originally Posted by PAFC

Perhaps because it wasn't a windy day? Did you attend the Port vs. St.Kilda game? Worst wind I have ever felt in my life and anyone there will back me up with that. Going to a few games a year does not give you any more knowledge on AAMI than Donz.

A few? I go to about 8 games a year at AAMI. I know what the wind feels like and yeah, with every city there is a chance of a big gale, but the majority of games are not "windswept". About time you grew up, your persistent arguing of anything I say with no basis is just down right childish.

[PAFC]

To say the MCG is just as bad when it's windy is purely wrong.

The outer side of AAMI is as prone as wind as you'll get as the stand is low and is sloped very differently compared to a ground like the Telstra Dome.

Look at this picture of AAMI

How does that provide the same wind cover as this:

[Brades]

You do realise Wind can go over stadiums... right? It can also come through the gaps that are left in the outer of the stadiums... and you are speaking to a Civil Engineer so I think I would know a lot more about the topic than you do.

[PAFC]

If you think the MCG has the same wind coverage as AAMI, i'm sure you're a great Civil Engineer.

If you attended the Port vs. Saints game in the outer, you would know what I am talking about. Members side is slightly better.

[Brades]

Originally Posted by PAFC

If you think the MCG has the same wind coverage as AAMI, i'm sure you're a great Civil Engineer.

If you attended the Port vs. Saints game in the outer, you would know what I am talking about. Members side is slightly better.

As I said, on a given day, both stadiums can be completely windswept by a galeforce wind or a stormy day, just like AAMI was in that game. I remember the weather, it was a cold, wet and windy day. You are just plain pathetic PAFC. Here I have provided clearcut evidence, and all you do is argue back like a child. End of thread.

[PAFC]

Do you think you could post more than once without using the terms 'child', 'childish', and 'petulant'. Also, answering your own questions and stating you are a civil engineer(Even though you're just a uni student) does not mean you have clearcut evidence. Perhaps you need to do a law course too?

[DonzFC]

me not going to aami means nothing.....i dont go to the winter olympics yet i can still see it is snowing.

just a final bit on your home ground advantage thing....

heres just 2 teams to analyse...

Freo have 12 games at subiaco -1 which is against wc and you have 11 home ground advantage games and 10 away games.

Ess have 4 interstate away games, and 18 melbourne games, of which 14 are against sides who share the same home ground, negating your home ground advantage. Which means we have 4 home ground advantage games and 18 non advantage games by your rules.

11 home ground advantage vs 4 home ground advantage....

it dosent take a civil engineer to work out its not level.

so if you were able to use this massive piece of advantage, which most interstate sides should,(freo pending) ,that will give you a finals berth, probably top 4, giving you another home final, while the vic sides scramble for the remaining spots after having played throughout the year with less home ground advantage games, then if we don't have to play away, have to play against a side on a neutral home ground.

so then you want to tip the scales further by having the gf after you have had a massave % more home ground advantages than the vics all year?

is it such a pain to have to come to the ground that has been home of aussie rules for the past 150 years?, after all those advantages throughout the year? the mcg is built like a collessium, built for gladiators to fight out the biggest and best game of the year infront of the biggest crowd, the history alone of past gf's and past moments should make it more neutral on gf day.

[rooboy_Tim]

Originally Posted by DonzFC

me not going to aami means nothing.....i dont go to the winter olympics yet i can still see it is snowing.

just a final bit on your home ground advantage thing....

heres just 2 teams to analyse...

Freo have 12 games at subiaco -1 which is against wc and you have 11 home ground advantage games and 10 away games.

Ess have 4 interstate away games, and 18 melbourne games, of which 14 are against sides who share the same home ground, negating your home ground advantage. Which means we have 4 home ground advantage games and 18 non advantage games by your rules.

11 home ground advantage vs 4 home ground advantage....

it dosent take a civil engineer to work out its not level.

so if you were able to use this massive piece of advantage, which most interstate sides should,(freo pending) ,that will give you a finals berth, probably top 4, giving you another home final, while the vic sides scramble for the remaining spots after having played throughout the year with less home ground advantage games, then if we don't have to play away, have to play against a side on a neutral home ground.

so then you want to tip the scales further by having the gf after you have had a massave % more home ground advantages than the vics all year?

is it such a pain to have to come to the ground that has been home of aussie rules for the past 150 years?, after all those advantages throughout the year? the mcg is built like a collessium, built for gladiators to fight out the biggest and best game of the year infront of the biggest crowd, the history alone of past gf's and past moments should make it more neutral on gf day.

Very well said Don, could not agree more.

But the amount of an advantage freo may get in this example may be a bit more minimal than we think it is. I know the dockers have a so called "home" ground advantage because only the eagles share the same ground. But they still have to travel every 2nd week (or 4th week in 1 instance because they do play 3 in a row at subiwhen they have an away derby) so the travel factor is something they have to contend with a lot more than the bombers for example. Even though the bombers don't have a "home" ground advantage against other Melbourne based teams" they still get to play at the venue when it is not classed as a "home" game. They just have to factor in the opposition supporters more than anything. It's the kind of arguement that is very debatable. it's a two way street kind of thing.